BEAST10 | Date: Wednesday, 2013-08-28, 6:06 PM | Message # 1 |
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| ESPN First Take First Take is an American un-official time sports talk program on http://nbagm-30team.ucoz.com/forum/26. One discussion will be released each day for 3 days out of the weekday (By Random). The show is broadcast from http://nbagm-30team.ucoz.com/forum/ headquarters. The entire show, without commercials, is available as an text-only view Analysts and long-time sports reporters Beast Ten, ThatKidTae, Reyes, and MarvellousOne (along with guests) are featured, providing roundtable and often adversarial daily debate on current sports topics of interest to the United States audience. Debate mainly focuses just on the NBA.
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BEAST10 | Date: Thursday, 2013-08-29, 2:14 PM | Message # 2 |
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| ESPN First Take
Tae’ Welcome to First Take! Pre-season is coming up and it's been a crazy offseason. Lets welcome our panelists. Hello Beast Beast Ten: Hello. ThatKidTae': Hello Cookingood Matt: Hello Tae’: And finally, hello Eury Matt: Hello. Eury Reyes: Hello Tae’: We have a guest on the show today. Let’s have a round of applause for Tracy McGrady Tracy McGrady: Hello Tracy McGrady: It's great to be here Tae’: I'll start the opening question. Tae’: Why did you choose now to retire Tracy? Tracy McGrady: Well, this was my best year in terms of playoff success Tracy McGrady: And I decided I was no longer a factor so I felt it was time to hang it up Matt: It was in fact your best year for playoff success. But why not give it one last goes to see if you could go from losing in the Finals, to having that ring? Tracy McGrady: I didn't want my ring to come as a product of bench riding Tracy McGrady: I wouldn't have been a factor for that team Eury Reyes: Tracy I wanna start off by congratulating on your illustrious career and wish you well in your future. By my calculations 1 ring is better than none Tracy McGrady: Yes but I will still go into the Hall of Fame Beast Ten: Woah. Tracy McGrady: The No Ring claim is unjust Tae’: If only he won a ring. Beast Ten: Are you confident in that statement? Tracy McGrady: Yes Tracy McGrady: If you look at all the work I put in Tae’: Tracy, to keep it honest, you couldn't lead your team anywhere. Even with a great center in Yao Beast Ten: I will think otherwise. Beast Ten: And yes Tae is very correct. Tracy McGrady: With respect Tracy McGrady: Yao was always injured Beast Ten: You couldn't win on your own if your life depended on it, Eury Reyes: That's not a guarantee. Tracy I would love for you to be in the Hall of Fame but scoring championships aren't the only thing that define a ring Tracy McGrady: neither could LeBron Tracy McGrady: Or Kobe Tracy McGrady: Or Jordan Tracy McGrady: Nobody can win on their own Eury Reyes: But LeBron came darn well close to it Tracy McGrady: Before Jordan had Pippen the Pistons were an insurmountable wall Beast Ten: LeBron actually made the finals. Eury Reyes: Closer than you ever did Beast Ten: And had multiple +60 game win seasons. Matt: Look at Tracy in his prime. He was one of the greatest scorers that this league has seen. To not let him into the Hall of Fame would be blasphemy. Tae’: But Kobe won with great centers. You didn't. Don't put your name in the same paragraph as them Beast Ten: ALL BY HIMSELF Tracy McGrady: LeBron is an elite talent Tracy McGrady: I did not have a great center Tracy McGrady: My center was always on the bench Eury Reyes: YOU'RE AN ELITE TALENT Beast Ten: You're overrated. Tracy McGrady: I am Tae’: *WAS Tracy McGrady: How so Beast Ten: You don't have the elements of a Hall of Famer. Beast Ten: Not even close. Beast Ten: It seems as all you cared about was stats. Eury Reyes: :O oh snap Tracy McGrady: I averaged 31 PPG 7 RPG and 7APG in the First Round and my team can't win Beast Ten: Exactly Tracy McGrady: I can't be to blame Eury Reyes: There's that stats thing he was talking about Beast Ten: You just expanded my quote Beast Ten: Your stats mean nothing Tracy McGrady: I tried my hardest to push my team Eury Reyes: Not exactly Beast Ten: You tried your hardest to get buckets. Tracy McGrady: Averaging 7 assist Eury Reyes: If you would have you'd be considered the best Shooting Guard in the league at the time and 2nd best of all time Eury Reyes: You know who also put up Stats like that. LeBron James Tracy McGrady: thanks Tracy McGrady: I believe I am a top 5 SG/SF of all time Tae’: GET OFF THE SET Eury Reyes: I believe you are not Beast Ten: Please Eury Reyes: I can name 10 better Tracy McGrady: Who's better than me Tracy McGrady: Mike, Kobe Tracy McGrady: ME Beast Ten: *Lol* Eury Reyes: Who's better than you? ALLEN IVERSON Beast Ten: Your own cousin Vince Carter is better than you.. Tracy McGrady: Really Matt: Now I think you guys are being harsh. He's a top ten SG of all time. Tracy McGrady: I would have dunked on all of you Eury Reyes: At a mere 6 foot he brought his team to the finals with mediocre teammates while you couldn't get out the first round Beast Ten: Dwyane Wade... Tae’: Get some knees first. Tracy McGrady: His team was elite defensively Eury Reyes: See I'd rather be able to win a championship than dunk on everyone Tracy McGrady: No one could with my teammates Tracy McGrady: The best team I was on was the Spurs Matt: You clearly aren't giving Yao enough credit. Beast Ten: YOU COULDN'T EVEN TAKE YOUR TEAM TO THE FINALS. Tae’: Yao, prime Shane Battier, and Steve Franchise Beast Ten: ALLEN IVERSON TOOK THE ***** 76ERS TO THE FINALS Eury Reyes: NO ONE COULDN'T WIN WITH YOU LEADING Tracy McGrady: Steve Franchise moved from franchise to franchise Tracy McGrady: Yao could never play 60+ games in my prime Eury Reyes: You moved from "franchise to franchise" too Tracy McGrady: I did Matt: But he was also a franchise player. Tracy McGrady: No Tracy McGrady: I'm the one who put everything on the line Tracy McGrady: Carrying a city on your back is hard Tracy McGrady: Most of the players were dead weight Beast Ten: You're not HOF. Eury Reyes: I am baffled by your comment Tracy McGrady: In every game who stepped up Tracy McGrady: Me Tracy McGrady: Who always went 110% Tracy McGrady: Me Beast Ten: Alright now to get to the off-season Beast Ten: Good discussion and lets thank T-Mac for being here.. Eury Reyes: How bout the Cavs shocking 1st pick Tracy McGrady: I thought it was hilarious Beast Ten: Cavs always go for the risk reward path. While I wasn't expecting it, I wasn't surprised Beast Ten: The move somewhat made sense rather than going with Noel anyways Tracy McGrady: The Cavs had many options that would have been better Beast Ten: I was expecting McLemore to land with them honestly, Matt: McLemore would have definitely been the right pick. Tracy McGrady: A Backup SG or starter like McLemore to compliment Waiters Tracy McGrady: Waiters is better suited off the bench Beast Ten: Otto Porter actually would've been the best pick for them. Eury Reyes: I would say Porter was the very fit but with LeBron possibly signing with them next offseason I see the reason in it Tracy McGrady: He came off the bench at Cuse Tracy McGrady: LeBron signing with the Cavs is a joke Eury Reyes: How so Beast Ten: LeBron isn't leaving a team that just won back to back... Eury Reyes: He has stated he is open to returning Tracy McGrady: The Cavs aren't championship material Tracy McGrady: The Heat are Beast Ten: He was just stating that to regain Cleveland respect. Beast Ten: but no way in hell is he going back, Eury Reyes: I'd take an up an coming star in Irving over an aging Wade Matt: I agree. The only way LeBron goes back is if Bosh and Wade leave. Beast Ten: Yes. Eury Reyes: Bosh is becoming more of a liability than help Tracy McGrady: Wade is Miami Beast Ten: Makes no sense unless the Heat totally fails this year and gets swept in first round. Tracy McGrady: Unlike LeBron he isn't leaving Tracy McGrady: If the Cavs make the playoffs they may play the Heat Tracy McGrady: If they manage to show some promise Eury Reyes: No doubt there You know what a joke is though. The damn Lakers thinking they can get both LeBron and Melo Matt: That is a complete disgrace. What are the Lakers thinking? Tracy McGrady: Well LeBron has proven he'll take a reduced salary Eury Reyes: But will Kobe Tracy McGrady: Yes Tracy McGrady: He won't be receiving 30 mil at his age we all know it Tracy McGrady: He knows it Tracy McGrady: I was in the NBA so I know this is a business Beast Ten: He's about to retire. Beast Ten: I bet he'll make around 10 million then he's gone. Tracy McGrady: The Lakers are able to sign Kobe at his price because of the jersey sales and tickets that he alone produces Tracy McGrady: I think he makes 16 mil Eury Reyes: Melo is not going to give up his best chance to win a championship IMO to join a rebuilding Lakers squad. Neither will LeBron Tracy McGrady: If they both join are they rebuilding Tracy McGrady: Or gearing up for a playoff run Tracy McGrady: Dwight Howard leaving makes the Lakers better Tracy McGrady: More testosterone in the locker room Eury Reyes: But it's not certain either will join Matt: Dwight Howard is old news. Matt: I feel like we haven't addressed the Pelicans acquisition of Jrue Holiday. [8:40:15 PM | Edited 8:40:43 PM] Eury Reyes: I was baffled Tracy McGrady: The sixes have proved again they don't know how to trade Beast Ten: Dumb trade. Beast Ten: The Organization is trying to win gold and get #1 pick. Beast Ten: Obviously... Matt: The Sixers are clearly trying to tank for a good pick. Might we see Wiggins or Julius Randle on the Sixers? Tracy McGrady: I think we will Tracy McGrady: yet both players play there top 2 positions Beast Ten: Who cares, their considered the future of the NBA, Matt: Evan Turner has a chance to be something and Thad Young is valuable but with time to develop, Wiggins and Randle could be future All-Stars. Tracy McGrady: It would have been more logical to trade Turner not Holiday Tracy McGrady: Holiday doesn't make this team win Tae’: We're at about 45 minutes on the show now Tae’: We'll see you next time on First Take
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